Leeching – The New Hacking?
Since the White Scroll events and the successful hyperinflation of the MapleGlobal economy, money is flowing like water in the Middle East. This ridiculous statement became a reality in MapleGlobal. The combination of an abundance of white scrolls being sold for insane prices and the meso websites that sold 100 million mesos for an all time low of $4.00 USD. Compared to NEXON’s Gold Sack of Mesos which was 4,500 NX Cash ($4.50) for 10 million mesos, the sensible person would purchase the 100 million from a meso site. So, what do you get when you combine Karma Scissors, cheap mesos, an influx of rare items, and poorly planned events? Chaos.
Many people who should not and normally would not get large sums of mesos were able to do so easily. This led to an influx of users being able to afford leeching. What is leeching? Leeching is when one person starts a party and trains on monsters that they can kill easily or kills a boss. The party leader takes payment by large sums of mesos in return for letting the customer leech on the experience via party. What does this mean? People can go from 1-70 in a day and sometimes even 1-120 in a day or two. This “legal” form of gaining levels is almost rivaled to hacking. Have you noticed those who go up hundreds of thousands of ranks in virtually a day? They’re either a hacker, or a leecher.
Nexon has not said anything regarding leeching. Some of you may ask, “Okay, so what’s so wrong with leeching?” Leeching, like hacking, ruins the game. Training is one of MapleStory’s most basic features. By leeching, you’re bypassing the time it takes to achieve those levels and players who actually trained to those levels over time will have basically wasted their time. Leeching creates a class of elite players who have unmounted sums of money and can potentially control the game. This creates a division between the users who train normally, as the game should be played, and those who buy their way to the top.
When the inflow of money into the MapleGlobal economy boomed those who normally would not leech began to and in a week or two players wearing equipment in their 40s or 50s were now level 120 and higher. Leeching is generally a common practice after level 100 or 120 because it is very difficult to train and we generally do not notice it as often. Leeching may not seem like a serious problem, but it bypasses the point of the game and in many ways the equivalent of hacking, minus the 3rd party programs.
As prices begin to return to a somewhat normal price we will begin to see the long-term effects of this major screw up.
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08 Jul 2009, 12:27 pm
Lol, just wait a few more patches untill Global implements that -spoiler spoiler spoiler- that will make leechers go crazy.
08 Jul 2009, 8:22 pm
Leeching is just one of those things that can’t really be stopped, because everyone does. Maybe not the full fledged buying to be leeched at harps, but by just pausing for a few minutes to get a soda or something.
08 Jul 2009, 11:07 pm
…it was inevitable. Especially in the most popular game that is also the most famous for intense grinding :/
How to fix this? I’m not gonna say the obvious. Make grinding FUN. I don’t know how it’s possible, but that’s the only other way
09 Jul 2009, 12:24 am
Even thought I agree with this there really is no way to stop this.
I mean think about it, if you go to the FM you will see several people advertising and you will see it the next day, and the next day, and the next day. since it cannot actually be stopped by force like hacking. User experiences can go on forever. A few people got banned for hacking, but that didnt stop any1, and then more people started getting banned, until almost every1 who hacked got banned, but did that stop any1? no. and That ‘s something that can be stopped by force. Something like this can’t really be stopped unless they get rid of parties.
09 Jul 2009, 7:40 am
Well, it would help if some maplers didn’t talk training too seriously.
Cause as much as everyone wants to deny it, training for hours on end
are socially challenged and may even develop certain illnesses due to the radiation from the computer.
Which was basically one of the main reasons why private servers emerged.
Think about it, once you reach 200, what can you do?
Create a new character?
It’s an endless cycle of stupidity, and the new contents are there solely to entice new players to keep up that cycle. That’s the cruelty of Nexon, which made it worse by giving distinct benefits like 2x exp, drop, gachapon etc if they pay.
This is ridiculous, because they’re feeding on gaming addicts-those are the people most likely to steal their parents money to buy NXcash-.
So while families break down, the money-hungry staff of Nexon are gleefully rubbing their grubby hands filled with wads of bills comparable to ill-gotten gains.
But this is just my opinion and I’m not gonna stop you from having yours. Just don’t try to force your stand down people’s throats(@savage-
and I think you should stop counter-flaming people cause it’ll only cause more people to think that you’re sensitive and hot-tempered.
mainly during the private server issues.
10 Jul 2009, 9:53 am
wow i dont know what leeching is but u say they pay people large sums of mesos to do it thats probably the reason i dont know i only have a lvl 51 character on maplestory! I had nx which suxks a whole lot and i dont think its fair that people who spent all their time grinding are having their hard work mawked i mean if i was lvl 71 and it took me like 2yrs to get there i would b pissed as hell if some guy who just started is lvl 120 in like a day!
10 Jul 2009, 11:53 am
Leeching is nothing but buying your way to level 200. There’s no such thing as achievements anymore. Anyone who reaches level 100 through leech is insultingly easy as to a person who trains on monsters for 4 years.
It might as well let the game destroy itself in a horrible orgy mess since Nexon claimed “Leeching” takes the challenge away yet the meaning of a game is supposedly to amuse yourself. By Leeching, you are sitting afk and let the other people take the work. Why are you rewarded for not playing the game? I feel that MapleStory is the game that doesn’t want to be played.
11 Jul 2009, 1:44 am
i totaly agree with jdizzy i have played off and on for like the last 4 years and i had a level 74 hermit and a level 47 pirate when pirate came out i noticed a few days after there was a level 120 pirate and i was super pissed off because i spent hours upon ours grinding or doing pqs i mean cmon people leeching sucks for us lower class people that actualy like to train and do pqs and not go afk for 8 hours and let someone train you that takes the fun out of the game and you think your a big shot for havin a hella high level char but it doesnt for a lot of people it makes em think you have no life which im sure the people like that dont but this is my opinion i would just like people to have fun playing the game and not make it into something they have to do like “i have to play maplestory even though i dont because i have to get this or get to this level” your supposed to have fun its not like a chore were you have to do it, its a choice
12 Jul 2009, 6:08 am
Wow what a bunch of whiners, if people leech they leech so what why do you care. Boo hoo you trained for hours on end to get your lvl and someone comes out of no where and is the same level, the only reason you complain is because you never got a leech. Honestly I don’t like most high lvls and their new characters why because their all a bunch of sobs. Ksing actual ppl who are training. So if you don’t like people who leech don’t talk with them simple as that. Basicly suck it up and stop crying like a baby.
12 Jul 2009, 10:28 am
So uh… put it this way, when a lvl 164 bishop trains with a lvl 164 NL (or even higher) Do u rly think that the NL can kill as fast as the bishop? I would call that a kind of leeching as well. Now u might say “Yeah but the NL is also fighting”….Yeah Ok as if it made a big difference on exp. Which means it doesn’t matter if the NL is fighting or just hanging on the rope
13 Jul 2009, 7:15 pm
i think its just dumb to go against leeching, i mean, what ur talking about (lvl120 in 1 day) isnt even possible with leeching, because there is a lvl u have to be at b4 u can train on certain monsters anyways, for instance, a lvl 1 could leech off of harps, plus the sheer amount of mesos that would take would have to be hacked for, leeching is just a part of maple, like most ppl dont even leech alot, example, i leeched from lvl78 to 85 at harps so that i could max out Band of Theives without training, after that i easily got the other35 lvls to 4th job because it was then easier for me to train
15 Jul 2009, 1:18 am
Well damn, maybe if Nexon made the exp rates higher, we wouldn’t have to leech.
15 Jul 2009, 9:03 pm
woot im last
15 Jul 2009, 9:04 pm
yeah…… just wanted to see wen Knight of Cygnus was gonna come out in GMS and they gave me a load of this crap
16 Jul 2009, 2:24 am
dont be stupid Nitsua in order to leech you need to be 5 levels or less away from the monster for example: Im level 44 cleric in order to leech i need someone to kill level 44-49 monster for me
16 Jul 2009, 1:46 pm
You see in the FM, and SMegas, “B> BF/ANEGO LEECH PG MULE 4MILL/HOUR” And stuff.
18 Jul 2009, 12:40 am
Actually YourPenis, that isn’t always true. When I had a lvl 8 magician and I was training on snails, I couldn’t kill fast enough. My DK buddy partied me and started killing snails for me, but even though I was equal or higher lvl than snails, I didn’t get any exp. There are multiple factors involved than just your lvl and monster’s lvl.
19 Jul 2009, 10:12 am
get over it… it’s just a game…
“lower class” and “upper class” pfft…
it costs $13 us generally for 100million messos, if u cant afford that, either get a job or don’t buy leech, it’s not compulsory…
and for some who say it has taken them 4 years to get to lvl 71 or whatever, then you suck, coz even playing the normal way it would only take a month or so…
you cannot get to lvl 120 in aq day who ever wrote this is exagerating greatly, you could get a lvl in about 2 hours on lvl 90 if you’re training with a biship, btu you cannot gain exp from creatures too far above your level.
leeching is good for ppl in the game who want to make messo by earning it. and if the demand goes up for leeching then the leechers can charge more for it…
so it won’t ruin ur GAME, and remember it is a GAME, get the hell over it!!
u so serious/?? lol.
ArchSyratz, lvl 92, playing since 2004
19 Jul 2009, 8:46 pm
Hm. I Think that people who leech make me ssort of mad too because even tho its justa game its kinda unfair that someone could get to 60 or even 70 if the knights of cygnus comes out because that lets them spoil it for everybody else and even if itd “just a way to make money for the leechers” doesnt mean that that is a legit way of making mesos because buying virtual money is not allowed and stupdi way to waste money.
23 Jul 2009, 9:14 pm
As someone who reached 3rd job back before 2x was available and leeching was no where near as popular, I have to say that some of you pro-leech commenters are very misguided. It is painfully obvious that you yourselves have never really sat down and grinded at 1x the 70 lvls it takes to reach 3rd job, let alone get 120. It took me a year and a half of playing to reach 3rd job, and I played quite avidly. Perhaps I was slower because I was a cleric, perhaps not, but I trained for at least 4 to (when I wasn’t doing anything) 10 hours at a day a few days a week. The person who said you could get there in a month the normal way is frankly, retarded.
2x came out around the time I reached 70 and so getting 120 wasn’t as painful, especially since I had some decent hp gear and was able just live at himes holding down the heal key. That said, it is extremely disheartening to see people go from lvl 60 to past me in a matter of 2 weeks or less due to the ease of and availability leeching. I spent real life years getting to where I’m at and now people can achieve what I did in a matter of weeks. Right after pirates were released I saw many of them already in the 100′s, it’s just dumb. Why play a game whose main focus is lvls when lvls dont mean anything?
It used to be seeing someone 100+ invoked a “Woah!” now it’s just “noob gtfo”.
The problem is most definitely unfixable though, on this I agree.
30 Jul 2009, 11:12 am
I grinded lvl 1-64 on 1x. Then 2x came out. Using 2x cards I trained at himes very quickly then moved to Skeles at 105. I fought w/ a DK buddy of mine and was able to job up to bishop in about 2.5 months.
Now, I sell leeches to people who work or go to school and do not have time to play maple as often as I do. The mesos I make fund my dexless Crusader, and yes, I do plan on leeching her when she’s lvl 78. Its not really much different than arguing “funded” characters over new ones/mains.
The first chara you make will always be the hardest. But after that, you should be able to reap the benefits of your hard work.
Lastly, I can only speak for Yellonde here, but we bishops do not just leech random ppl. We tend to leech people we know and trust who, you guessed it, already have mains and are making new characters.
BF/Anego leeches start at lvl 26 at the earliest but few people do that (or can even afford it) because it’s not worth it. 10 mil/BF is a steep price when training would be easier at that level. Especially now that we have 2x.
Leeching: not as bad as you’re making it out to be.
BTW: bishop leech (the mob kiling one) is about 1lvl/hour on 4x. so if you could theoretically keep buying nx cards and get family buffed every 30 minutes and play 24 hours a day… it would still take a week to be 120.. lol.
01 Aug 2009, 10:29 pm
I get that leeching is unfair but for me personally I find it extremely difficult to train. Not only because grinding takes such vast amounts of time, but also because usually if I grind for even five minutes my wrists start to burn like crazy making it painful to play. I’d really like to get to fourth job by training, but how am I supposed to do that without my hands falling off? I’d rather not risk my health just so I can train my character to whatever level.
I did train my character from level 1 all the way to level 85 which took me about three years with periods of quitting in between. But I don’t wanna spend another three years trying to get to level 120 little by little. It just takes too long and I don’t have the patience for that, along with not wanting to risk my health. I don’t really understand how people manage to grind their way to those high levels and meanwhile not have any health complications.
Which is why leeching could soon become another option for me. I don’t want to just stop playing the game because I can’t train to level 120. So just to let you know, some people might have another reason for their leeching, like I do.
04 Aug 2009, 7:30 pm
no comment
06 Aug 2009, 11:57 am
i like leeching………… got mesos u can control the game hehe.. juz 2 day i from lvl 30 lvl up to122 hehe…… somemore spammer is hacker^^
07 Aug 2009, 2:41 pm
lol 1st 120lvl koc made it in 17h by buying anego leech wich gives 50-70 in one kill with 4x xD
07 Aug 2009, 10:10 pm
Lol i just hack
13 Aug 2009, 6:50 pm
Hello there again Savage.
“Leeching may not seem like a serious problem, but it bypasses the point of the game and in many ways the equivalent of hacking, minus the 3rd party programs.”
Really? I thought the point of the game is to have fun.
“Some of you may ask, “Okay, so what’s so wrong with leeching?” Leeching, like hacking, ruins the game. Training is one of MapleStory’s most basic features. By leeching, you’re bypassing the time it takes to achieve those levels and players who actually trained to those levels over time will have basically wasted their time.”
People who do things the legit way always get burned. -.-
On another point, if you’re playing the game just to get to level 200, you are playing for the wrong reason.
Although the main “objective” of the game is to reach level 200, games were invented to have fun with. And if someone is playing Maplestory because they think it WILL be fun (when they’re level 70+/whatever), then they shouldn’t play. It’s not worth it, especially with all the bad experiences you will have along the way getting there.
If you’re not playing the game to just have fun, it’s not worth it to play.
14 Aug 2009, 2:21 pm
u guys are retards if u say it ruins the game and so wht i called u a retard go cry a river and piss in it leeching is a way to make money like bungie made halo and microsoft leeches off some money big deal its everywhere so just no and btw im not gonna argue with u nubs so go get a life gawd
14 Dec 2009, 10:15 pm
SHIT!!!!! so where can a lvl 110 hermit train at?, since the leech is gone, all newtie/skele party are gone too, so we can’t train there anymore, will be too hard lvl up f7
15 Dec 2009, 12:55 am
For hermits, if depends on your funding, items, and whether you’re dexless or not. What exactly do you mean leech is gone? (I haven’t been playing GMS for a while) You can always “leech” in bosses-in fact, lvl110+ hermits with at least a steele to crystal ilbi should be able to handle it without probelms……Just do zakuma and etc.
*NOTE: You can go train in Leafre against skeles, but that just takes a long time-try get to lvl190+; you require over a BILLION exp for 1 lvl.
I’m just curious-what do you mean all the leafre parties are gone?
15 Dec 2009, 1:16 am
To all players of JMS, KMS, GMS, TMS, MSEA, MEurope, and all other maplestory players: Leeching is inevitable.
The creators of MS is South Korea, a capitalist nation (thanks to America and the U.N.), and capitalists, per se, love money. Period.
let’s all think of a scenario on how to stop leeching:
The main parts of leeching starts with:
1-The leecher pays anything of value (real money, meso, nx, valuable items, etc.)
2-The stronger player accepts the money & trains the leecher (or scams them, but it’s only about 15% of the time)
3- The leecher can become lvl120+ within a day (not kidding; within a TOTAL of 22 hours, one of my friends achieved lvl 116, so technically its not impossible)
To stop this, Nexon America must address the following things:
Massive meso/item Trading-By allowing too much valuables and money to be transferred at any given time, this allows real world trading and makes leeching easier. If you decide to control it, the result will be a CHAOTIC GAME ECONOMY.
Adjust all PQs- Take the Monster Carnival PQ for example: generally, the players have around the some-what similar lvls, so restricting lvl differences between leecher and the workers make no large impact.
Since by allowing each side to win in a pattern, both teams must benefit. The game programmers can’t simply make that you can’t win once and then lose-that allows one team to win twice or win once with a tie, while the other team can only get 1 loss and 1 tie at best.
The evils of capitalism spreads to any MMORPG; Runescape, Ragnarok, WOW (World of Warcraft), and most certainly Maplestory are not immune to this.
If you can stop leeching with a HUGE impact, then congradulations-You just solved one of the biggest probelms of the Western World that not even the richest man or the U.S. president couldn’t solve.